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Info-Mac Digest             Wed, 10 Jun 92       Volume 10 : Issue 141

Today's Topics:

      [*] ARA script update for PP9600SA modem
      "not enough finder memory to work with hard disk" (Q)
      # of copies & cover sheet on LaserWriter?
      11 Mb needed for Excel 4???
      512K SIMMs--The Use (A)
      academics and word-processors
      A ram disk on a Powerbook-100 2/20 using the Apple portable system-6
      Avoiding compression/transparency pitfalls (C)
      Can you connect an extended keyboard to a powerbook ?
      Cleaning your monitor
      Compression/transparency pitfalls
      Dead mice
      Devanagari Sanskrit Fonts?
      Dialog Box shortcut?
      Disk From Hell
      Disk From Hell (2)
      DW 3.1/sys6.0.8
      DW 3.1 driver/ sys 6.07 [A]
      Epson printer drivers (reply)
      Error 33
      Floppy drive diagnostic software
      Freezing with triple-clicks?
      Hebrew System 7---missing font?
      help needed
      LC background question
      mac training videos
      Mail to AppleLink/CompuServe (Q)
      meaning of (numbered) error messages (q.)
      MIF translator to get files from FrameMaker (Q)?
      miracle piano
      More Printing Troubles--
      Mouse does not move (Help)
      Need 24-bit PICT
      Online Newsletter
      Password Protection
      Personal LS to Personal NTR upgrade (Q)
      PowerKey (Summary)
      Printing linked documents to file (R)
      Printing Troubles
      RAM vs Disk Space...and Multifinder
      Repeat Bibliographic : Advocacy for the devil
      Telnet MacBinary and Kermit MacBinary (A)
      The Word on Word
      Translation of MASS-11 files (Reply)
      Two-page Monitors
      Undeleteable folder (A)
      White Knight Text Downloads (Q)
      White Knight timer DOES flicker
      wishlist:  choose finder/multifinder, main monitor at startup
      Word, footnotes, table and figure renumbering
      Word 5.0 crashes - Side not
      wordprocessing on a Sparc and an SE/30? (A)
      Zterm Text Capture

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1992 12:54:05 PDT
From: Bill Lipa <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] ARA script update for PP9600SA modem

This script was posted on Usenet in response to a query of mine. I have
converted the script text into a document with the correct type and creator.

From: [e-mail] (Kevin Tavenner)
Subject: ARA & Practical Peripherals 9600SA

The 'Practical Peripherals 9600SA' script that is shipped with AppleTalk
Remote Access does not function consistently with the Practical Modem 9600SA.
This is normally experienced while using a Quadra X00 with the '040 cache on.
It appears that the modem command processor requires quiet time between the
"OK<cr><lf>" response from the modem and the receipt of the next command from
the ARA CCL interpreter.  This required quiet time seems to be on the order
of 5-10ms.

The following script meets this requirement in the simplest way - a "Pause 1"
is inserted in front of every "Write" command!  This inserts a 200ms delay
(Quadra 700, cache on) that allows the modem command processor to recycle for
the next command.  The disadvantage of this approach is that the CCL execution
times for dialing and hanging up are increased by about 1s.  The speed of the
ARA connection is unaffected since the CCL interpreter is only used for
initiating and terminating connections.

[Archived as /info-mac/comm/ara-pp9600sa-script.hqx; 7K]

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1992 16:14:17 -2300
From: [e-mail]
Subject: "not enough finder memory to work with hard disk" (Q)

I got a MacSE with a 20SC internal hard disk with a problem:  Another
person (not me) was optimizing the hard disk on this SE which went ok until
the end when it said something like 'desktop file still fragmented'.  When
you try to boot the SE now, no matter if it is from a start-up floppy or
the internal drive, it will not mount the internal hard drive and displays
the following message:  "There isn't enough Finder Memory to work with the
disk 'Karla's Hard Drive' "  I have never seen this message before.

Any ideas on how I might even mount the drive.  I was going to re-install
the system, but the installer floppies won't mount the drive either.  SCSI
Probe and INFO will both see the drive, but the above message reappears
when I try to mount the drive.

Colin Lamb - MacMeister 8-)>  -  Drake University  -  Des Moines

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1992 14:45:20 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail] (VAX Academic Support)
Subject: # of copies & cover sheet on LaserWriter?

Hi,

Two questions:

1. Is there a way to force the LaserWriter to produce a cover sheet
   for each print job?

2. Is there a way to limit the number of copies a person can produce
   on the LaserWriter?

Many thanks,

Josephine Colmenares
Fordham University
colmenares@fordmrh1 via BITNET
[e-mail] via Internet

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 92  16:03 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: 11 Mb needed for Excel 4???

     I can hardly believe what I just read in Tidbits : 11 Mb disk space
for Excel 4?  Half the room of an entry level powerbook hard drive! This
just isn't the program for the "rest of us", and even if Apple don't use
that famous phrase of Steve Jobs anymore, we are still around.  It is
possible, even probable, that many of us will have this kind of space to
spare on our future RISC-based machines, and the future comes fast in
this field, but I still can't believe this figure.  To put it into some
sort of perspective, look how much program you get in Claris Works
hogging only 1.5 Mb of your disk : WP, spreadsheet, draw package, comms,
dictionary, thesaurus, help system, file translators.  Why hasn't
Microsoft used the plug-in module approach of Word 5 (or is this reserved
for Excel 5, already slated to be released 6 months after Excel 4???).

     Could someone from Microsoft *please* tell us before this gets out
of hand the *minimum* installation in terms of disk space and memory
requirements?


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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 92 14:23:13 EST
From: Murph Sewall <[e-mail]>
Subject: 512K SIMMs--The Use (A)

On Mon, 8 Jun 92 20:33:52 PDT you said:
>    The opinion is pretty unanimous that 512K SIMMs work in the IIsi and
>II ci only.

That's odd.  According the the Macintosh Memory Guide (from COnnectix),
*both* the LC (presumably the LC II as well) and the Quadra 700 can use
512K SIMMS.  You can use the Memory Guide's "search" function (key:
512K) to confirm that for yourself.

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Date: 11 Jun 1992 10:47:52 +1200
From: "matt n." <[e-mail]>
Subject: academics and word-processors

Stephen Wall wrote:

>I've been reading all the recent postings about repeating
>bibliographic input and footnoting in Microsoft Word, and it seems
>that one basic thread is that academic customers are being treated
>like second class citizens. Playing Devil's Advocate for the
>moment, I'd ask: Is there any profit in adding new features purely
>for academia?

A real problem. Academics think of themselves, not as a minority,
but as the writers (and so, potentially, the users of
word-processors) par excellence, mustering large amounts of material
with complex layout, diagramming, reference, and cross-referencing
needs. Academics think they represent (and indeed should set) the
*standard* for word-processing use. The programmers/marketers, on
the other hand, need to aim at the common user (common in the sense
"majority"), and often seem to have little idea how such fancy
capabilities would really be used, even when they bother to build
them into their programs. See my long review of Nisus, in TidBITs, a
couple of months back.

However, I think academics represent a bigger bite than is usually
supposed. When TidBITs published my Nisus review I was swamped with
email from people agreeing with the stupid inability in Nisus to
write a footnote while viewing the main text. On the other hand,
Paragon Inc. told me they had *never* heard this complaint. If
academics would write letters to software companies making their
needs vociferously clear, even Microsoft might have to sit up and
take notice.

 --------
matt neuburg, phd = [e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 92 14:41 N
From: <[e-mail]> ([e-mail] FAX FRANCE[33] 76-48-39...)
Subject: A ram disk on a Powerbook-100 2/20 using the Apple portable system-6

Distribution-File:
        [e-mail]

A Ram disk is useful on the powerbooks, since it can contain the system and
working files, which means that the hard disk can go to sleep more often,
conserving battery life.  This is especially interesting on the PB-100,
since the Ram disk is conserved on system shutdown (not just sleep). Ram disk
files, including the system are preserved by extra batteries not found on
the 140 and 170, for a year or so, despite system resets and shutdowns.

But system-7 does not allow a Ram disk without at least 4 Meg. (because 7 is
so big).  However, since the PB-100 is really an Apple PORTABLE (according
to Profiler) the minimum system-6 will leave plenty of space for a Ram disk
big enough for the system and more.  A 512K ram disk still leaves 1.4 Meg of
ram, since minimal sys-6 runs in only 137K.  And 512K is big enough for all
the minimal system-6 files while still leaving 127K freefor working files.

Even if the PB-100 is using system-6, it will still start up as an external
SCSI drive when the special SCSI cable is used.  (The host Mac does not
however see the PB Ram disk).

Alan Hewat, ILL, 156X Grenoble Cedex, 38042 France (email [e-mail])

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 92 14:24:06 EST
From: Murph Sewall <[e-mail]>
Subject: Avoiding compression/transparency pitfalls (C)

On Tue, 9 Jun 92 06:07:24 PDT Jeff Needleman said:
>Best workaround--buy a larger disk and toss out any "transparent"
>compression program.

Ah the choices one must make.  I find it SOOOoooo hard to pick up a
PowerBook and leave home without stuffing it with every conceivable app
I might just have a use for (even ones I haven't used for months -- ever
hear George Carlin's "your stuff" routine :-)  So, I love AutoDoubler's
(or one of the other transparent compressor's) ability to cram more
stuff on the drive.

UNFORTUNATELY, the PowerBook *only* has 4 MBytes of RAM (funny how 4
MBytes of RAM no longer seems like enough :)  It can get difficult to
use Apple's DiskCopy to duplicate a 1.44 MByte disk (needs 1792K or
RAM), for example.  The problem is AutoDoubler uses 363K of System heap
and the DiskDoubler INIT wants another 163K.  ATM 2.0.3 wants 111K plus
whatever the font cache size, typically 128K, is (an argument for using
TrueType instead on a PowerBook).

The awful choices become: expand the PB RAM (still awfully expensive!),
dump enough stuff to backup so that compressing everything isn't
necessary (boo hoo), or buy a bigger hard drive (also expensive, but not
as expensive as RAM).  Using virtual isn't practical for two reasons 1)
it runs the hard drive all the time and drains the battery so fast that
it's only practical in the presence of household current, and 2) it
requires at least 5 MBytes of free space on the hard disk.

My solution was to order a Quantum GO 80 hard drive from APS ($439 plus
$40 to get my local "authorized Apple technician" to install it).  That
turns out to be about $100 less expensive than our campus store probably
will be offering the Apple upgrade for (they haven't received a price
sheet yet, but they usually charge about 80% of list).  The GO 120 isn't
shipping yet (expected by the end of the month) and at $699, it costs
more per MByte than the GO 80.  Because my PowerBook is my "backup" Mac,
I figured I could live with 80 MBytes (after all, I'd been squeezing
stuff into the 40 MByte drive -- uncompressed 50.5 MBytes).

The Go 80 (82K capacity actually, and APS PowerTools makes 80.8K
actually usable) was installed yesterday.  The extra space is wonderful,
but WOW is it NOISY (compared to the Connor which simply "whirred"
some--colleagues say even the Connor is noisier than the drives that
ship with many MeSsy DOS laptops).  The only drive test I've run is
Speedometer's; it says the GO 80 is 60 percent faster than the Connor
(the price one pays for sounding like a coffee grinder?).  Sure enough,
expanding all the files and not using AutoDoubler and DD INIT have given
me 526K more RAM to run applications.  Adding a few things I really
didn't have room for on the 40 MByte drive has left me at 59K on the
drive.  After one day, I'm happy but I keep finding neat new programs
I'd like to have at my fingertips (I may yet regret not having gone for
the GO 120 ;-)  I got the Connor as a backup -- in case the machine shop
sound of the GO 80 turns out to be a symptom of trouble.  I've thought
about looking for one of the cases that could make the Connor an
external drive, but I don't really expect I'd use it much that way.  If
anything interesting (unusual) happens with the GO 80, I'll report it
here.

Has anyone else installed a GO 80?  Did I mention that mine is loud
enough to hear across the room?  Is yours?

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 92 08:59 MET
From: Hans de Wolf <[e-mail]>
Subject: Can you connect an extended keyboard to a powerbook ?

Does anybody know if it is possible to connected an extended keyboard to a
Mac Powerbook (170) ? The PB170 manual explicitly states that only low-power
devices should be connected to the ADB bus, and the Extended Keyboard II does
not show the special low power icon (a small circle, open at the top,
and in this gap a short horizontal line - maybe it is on the bottom of your
mouse ...).

Hans de Wolf
[e-mail]

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Date: 10 Jun 92 14:09:56 U
From: "Tom Scott" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Cleaning your monitor

                       Subject:
                       Cleaning your monitor
>What can be used to clean monitors and what solutions should be avoided?
 ----------------------------------------------
I like to recommend to my users to use any brand of anti-static dryer sheets to
clean the dust off of their monitors.  You don't have the static-y result like
you get using a Kleenex, and your monitor will be clean and lemony-fresh!  ;-{)



 From the desk of:
Tom Scott

 Cornell University

 Carpenter Hall Annex
 Phone: [phone]
 [e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1992 10:37 CDT
From: "Dwight Lemke @ Wisconsin Oshkosh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Compression/transparency pitfalls

I think that perhaps there _may_ be another workaround, for those who aren't
afraid of ResEdit.  While browing through AutoDoubler with ResEdit, I found
that the exception table seems to be stored in a resource named APCF.  You
merely need to duplicate one of the resources [which are about 22 bytes] and
open it with ResEdit.  In the first line of the resource, you will find some
ASCII on the right side which says something like APPLxxxx.  Merely change
the xxxx for the code for your addition to the exception list--in my instance
"Pbnb" for Norton Backup.  Now "Get resource info" and change the name to
something suitable.  Quit and save.  When you reboot, AD _should_ now ignore
files of that type.  If I'm wrong on this, someone please stop me before I
kill again!  All the usual caveats about using ResEdit apply here.

-Dwight

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Date: Tue, 9 Jun 92 22:37:43 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Scott McLagan)
Subject: Dead mice

** Sorry folks, I misspelled my email address in the first posting
** so I'll repost this message.

A bunch of our Mac Plus mice have packed it in. I remember some
talk about an extension-control panel that allowed the Mac
to use an el-cheapo Dos-box mouse ($40) via the serial port.
So far my only other alternatives are real Apple mice ($130)
or third party equivalents ($75 and up).

Is anyone using this system? Any warnings? Of course this would
occupy the modem port but this wouldn't be a problem in my
case.

Thanks for the help.

Scott.
[e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 92 19:31:13 EDT
From: CYMT000 <[e-mail]>
Subject: Devanagari Sanskrit Fonts?

Does anyone know if there is a public domain font for Devanagari
Sanskrit, preferably postscipt or truetype. I curently have a bitmap
one which is made by some one from University of British Columbia, I
guess. I know there exists a Devanagari Hindi font in Linguistic
Software but I want to have a public domain one. Thanks in advance for
your help and your time.

Mai Ba Tong
[e-mail]
McGill University
Montreal Quebec

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 92 14:28:49 EST
From: Murph Sewall <[e-mail]>
Subject: Dialog Box shortcut?

On Tue, 9 Jun 1992 15:52 PDT you said:
>I used a wonderful little piece of software called Commander Dialog that
>allowed selection of buttons other than the default in a dialog box
>simply by pressing the key corresponding to the first letter in the
>button label.  However, when I finally went to System 7 the other day,
>Commander Dialog broke in a big way.  Now I'm looking for something that
>will serve the same purpose under System 7.

ftp to mac.archive.umich.edu (141.211.164.153) and get
/mac/system.extensions/cdev/escapade1.32.sit.hqx

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 92 10:51:54 EDT
From: "Allan M. Bloom" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Disk From Hell

TO: Connectix, Symantec, Info-Mac

We've long known about the "folder from hell" problem. I've found a "disk
>From hell" as well. With all applications shut down and all windows shut,
I sometimes can't get rid of a floppy disk. The message is "The disk XXX
could not be put away because it contains items in use."  I can reliably
replicate this problem with HyperCard stacks on floppy, but I have also
run across the situation on other floppy disks lately.

I tracked down the problem with HyperCard, but I haven't yet found the
key for other floppy files. The HC problem involves SAM (3.08) and Hand
Off II (2.2.5). I launched Connectix's excellent "Macintosh Memory Guide"
stack from floppy, found the information I wanted, quit to Finder, and
splat-Y'd to put the disk away. Death. Only SAM and HO active. Together.
No problem with either alone. When I either "quit to Home" or "Go Home"
before quitting, I can put away the disk with no problem.

I don't know which program is stomping on whom, but I'd really like a fix
to one or both. SAM and Hand Off II are two of my favorite programs. And
maybe if the HyperCard interaction is fixed, the fix may take care of the
other un-put-away-able floppies that I can't figure out.

Al Bloom, Virginia Tech

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 92 17:35:37 EDT
From: "Allan M. Bloom" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Disk From Hell (2)

Uh, well, shucks. My "disk from hell" note of earlier today was maybe a
tad premature. It was correct as far as it went. Which was on my office
IIcx upgraded with a DayStar 33MHz PowerCache and FPU. Running Sys/7.0.1
and Tuner 1.1.1 in standard 24-bit addressing with VM off.

I just did the same thing with Connectix's "Macintosh Memory Guide" on
floppy disk on my home IIci (AE cache card), and quitting to Finder left
me with a floppy that was perfectly ejectable via splat-Y.

Oh naughtyword! Is nothing simple? Now I have to go back to the store
and see if the MODE32 patch for the IIcx ROM will get rid of the problem.
And add DayStar to the list of addressees for this series of notes.

Stay tuned. Film at eleven.

Al Bloom, Virginia Tech

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Date: 10 Jun 92 12:05:04 U
From: Evans-IM-IS <[e-mail]>
Subject: DW 3.1/sys6.0.8

Thanx so much for your help.  Michael suggested trying sys6.0.8 and then load
the deskwriter drivers.  I did so.  I borrowed a external disk, loaded sys607
onto it and then loaded the sys7.0 apple print drivers.  I then rebooted and
loaded (with installer) the HP DW 3.1 drivers and rebooted.
whalla (<--spelling might be incorrect) it worked.

Now for some other things I learned...
-DW 3.1would not work with sys 7.0b4 apple print drivers (Please do not ask me
why I put that on first)
-with the sys7.0 apple print drivers, DW 3.1 would not work if I just dragged
the neccesary files over to the sys folder.  I had to use the apple print
installer.  I know HP DW 3.1 had resource files, but I didn't think apple had
hidden resources....
-the Readme file and the installer notes on the DW 3.1 installation disk were
in sys7 teach text format and could not be read in sys6.
(I know...who cares:)

Thanx so much for your help
Troy

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 92 09:00:15 MET
From: John Hendrickx <[e-mail]>
Subject: DW 3.1 driver/ sys 6.07 [A]

Troy asked whether the DW 3.1 driver works on system 6.07. It does. I
have a classic 4/40 with system 6.07 and a deskwriter, using a serial
cable. The DW serial driver prints in the background if I run
multi-finder. (This did not work when I had only 2M).

The DW driver works fine, but is slightly slower than the DW 2.2 driver.
I printed 3 pages of a Word 4.0 document with fraction widths ON (this
slows things down) - the doc also contained several equations. It took
the DW 2.2 4:42 to print this, versus 5:04 for DW 3.1 under finder,
foreground printing, and 9:55 (!) for the DW 3.1 under multi-finder,
background printing. I must say that my harddisk was almost full and
since DW 3.1 always spools to disk (or says it does) this might have
slowed things. Has anyone else tried this?

John Hendrickx, University of Nijmegen, The Netherlands

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 92 08:51 MET
From: Hans de Wolf <[e-mail]>
Subject: Epson printer drivers (reply)

Reply to question from Norman Vinson about printer drivers for an Epson
Spectrum LX-80:

Orange Micro makes a product called Grappler which allows you to connect
non-Apple printers to a Mac. It contains a serial-to-parallel interface and
driver software. There are two versions: Grappler 9-pin (for 9 pin printers)
and Grappler II sp for 24 pin printers, PCL laser printers and Inkjet printers.

I use the Grappler II sp with a HP DeskJet Plus, and it works (the manual
list a few incompatibilities with special software packages, which I do
not use).

                        Regards,
                        Hans de Wolf
                        [e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 92 15:37:58 EST
From: J. H. Goodman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Error 33

I'm getting Error 33 (zcbFree has gone negative) a lot lately. I'm running a
Quadra 700 w/ 20MB Ram, no virtual. This usually happens with Applicon but has
also occurred with PrintMonitor. Usually I'm running 3 applications with 2-3 MB
allocated to each. I've been incrementally increasing Applicon's memory since
this has begun.  After the crash, I've been typing ES in MacsBug, saving
anything open in the applications, and rebooting.  This is a pain.

If anyone can tell me what zcbFree is and if there is a better thing to do
while in the debugger, I'd appreciate it.

Thanks in Advance,

Jay Goodman/Alcoa Technical Center/[e-mail]


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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1992 10:59 EST
From: "Gary D. Stratton" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Floppy drive diagnostic software

I am looking for any software that would help in the repair of 3.5" disk
drives, 400k up.

Gary

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 92 15:00:32 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Dennis J. Templeton)
Subject: Freezing with triple-clicks?

My student installed tune-up 1.1 into her classic II running 7.01 and
now reports the problem of having the machine freeze-up (no error messages)
whenever she triple clicks either intentionally or accidentally. She also
says that trying to start up WriteNow (I think) will cause a freeze.

What is really troubling her, I think, is that it is that she can't play
crystal quest without triple-clicking.

Any help will be appreciated.

dennis

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1992 11:04:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail] (VAX Academic Support)
Subject: Hebrew System 7---missing font?

Hi,

I've been asked to download Hebrew System 7 which I did successfully.
However, when attempting to install it, it seems that one (or perhaps
more fonts are missing).  For example, the QUIT box displays four
boxes only.  Can anyone tell me if I'm missing something?

Many thanks,

Josephine Colmenares
Fordham University
colmenares@fordmrh1 via BITNET
[e-mail] via Internet

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 92 19:01:13 +0100
From: [e-mail] (Michel Eytan LILoL)
Subject: help needed

Hail to all you Mac Gurus out there! I need *urgent help* please.

My Mac is a IIsi, with system 6.0.7 (yeah, I know ... but who will give me
all the init's working right now that I should find in system 7 compatible
version and pay again?).

Trouble started about a month ago: the cursor seemed to 'stick' to the files,
ie when passing over a file (or folder) it blackened and carried the icon.
My dealer said it was 'soft trouble'. So I installed again the system (from
the original diskette) a dozen times, optimized my HD 40 (and the partition)
with SUMII SumTuneUp same # times. Nuttin' doin'!!!

Well it was troublesome, but manageable. Now it has become MUCH WORSE: when I
double-click a file or press clover-o after selecting it, a window outline
opens very fast and then everything FREEZES. This includes DA's too!
Trying to get out with MacBugs, I get the following message:

"Bus error at 4083DD9A _GetNewPalette+011A".

BTW, this does NOT happen when I start my Mac from a diskette; the 'sticky'
cursor phenomenon *does*.

I would be most grateful for help. Thanks

==michel [e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 92 11:53:03 -0400
From: [e-mail]
Subject: LC background question

I have a problem with my Mac LC.  My 15-year-old brother was screwing
around in my system with ResEdit when I first got it, and managed to
persuade it that it no longer knows how to do color backgrounds.  I have
system 7, and when I go to change the background of the finder in the
control panel, the only options available are gray-scale patterns.  It
runs colors fine everywhere else.

My brother swears that he didn't change anything, but the evidence is
clear - it worked before he played with it, and didn't afterwards.  I
went through the code, but couldn't spot anything obviously wrong and
was afraid to experiment too much for fear of persuading the thing
that it didn't know how to start up, either.

Any suggestions for things I could try would be great - I figure he
probably deleted a 1 somewhere without noticing it, and since I don't
know what it should look like, I have no hope of fixing it.

Thanks a lot!

Please email advice to [e-mail]

Cynthia Phillips

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1992 13:44 EST
From: ELLEN RICCA AT MCC <[e-mail]>
Subject: mac training videos

We are considering the purchase of training videos for
some of the more standard macintosh software applications
(Word, PageMaker,Excel, etc..). Do any members of this
list have any critiques of the various training videos
on the market? We have catalog info from vendors like
'MacAcademy' , 'Personal Training Systems' , and
'Individual Training' but we are unsure about which
one to go with.

If anyone has found any of these brands particularly useful
(or a complete waste of time and money!) it would help
in our decisiion process.

Responses can be e-mailed to me at [e-mail]

Thanks, Ellen Ricca

  ELLEN RICCA, Middlesex Community College, 33 Kearney Sq, Lowell MA 01852
Internet: [e-mail] / FAX: [phone] / Tel:[phone]

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 92 18:00:49 EDT
From: "Allan M. Bloom" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Mail to AppleLink/CompuServe (Q)

Folks, I've seen several mentions that certain vendors have refused to
accept InterNet mail on their Compu$erve and AppleLink accounts. What I
have not seen is whether I, as an InterNet sender, can tell that my
deathless prose has been rejected. Everything I've sent yields a msg
saying that mail has been delivered to whomever at whatever. Is there a
way to tell if my MAILER is lying?

Al Bloom, Virginia Tech

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 10 Jun 92 00:08:50 EST
From: Murph Sewall <[e-mail]>
Subject: meaning of (numbered) error messages (q.)

On Mon, 08 Jun 1992 15:42:16 PDT you said:
>I get from time to time an error message in the form of a cryptic number
>( -620 is the latest example). How do I find the meaning of these
>numbers?

get info-mac/util/system-errors-701.hqx
-620 is out of memory - "insufficient physical memory"

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1992 09:16:22 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: MIF translator to get files from FrameMaker (Q)?

 Does anyone know of an Apple File Exchange translator, a stand-alone
program, or even a procedure to translate FrameMaker's "MIF" export format
to something that SOME other word processor can import without losing the
formatting? Just about any word processor file will do except Nissus.
 And what does MIF stand for?
  Macintosh Interchange Format - Ha.
  Multi-platform Interchange Format - probable since FrameMaker is
                                      multi-platform.



Jim Mueller, MacShaman             Internet: [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 10 Jun 92 0:23:42 EDT
From: Seth Ness <[e-mail]>
Subject: miracle piano

well, i just got the miracle piano teaching system, and it looks great.
i was wondering if there was a way i could use the keyboards speakers instead
of the mac speaker for everything?

--
 Seth L. Ness                        Ness Gadol Hayah Sham
 [e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 92 10:39:53 PDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: More Printing Troubles--

Greetings (again) From Nacogdoches--

Another print problem has surfaced.  Aghhh !

Users print to a LW IINT from  System 7.01 based machines--various
applications. Standard set of LW fonts installed on the machines.
Doccuments are from another source, ie:  another machine somewhere or some
info from a file the got off the Net.

The characters print as all "squished" together--no space betweeen.

I've played a bit with this and found 2 fixes--
One is to select all the text in the doccument and change it to somthing
other than TImes, save, then print.  THis has worked in most all cases, but
not every one !
THe other is to turn off the printer (reset it) and try again.  This has
worked in some, but not all.

Sooooo--what's happening here folks ?  Is this another of the System 7
"problems" <grin> ?

Thanks--
Ron Rushing-- Media Supervisor  S.F.A University  Nacogdoches, TX  409)
568-1424

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1992 0:52:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail] (Bob Canfield)
Subject: Mouse does not move (Help)

   The mouse on my SE keeps getting stuck. I opened it up, cleaned
   the ball and brushed out some dirt, but to no avail. My
   arrow/cursor sproadically stops moving across the screen while
   I'm moving the mouse continuously on the pad. Often it will
   continue to move horizontally, but not vertically, or vice-versa.
   Sometimes removing the ball, blowing into the opening, and
   replacing the ball temporarily fixes the problem. I've verified
   that it is not a software bug of any kind by replacing the mouse
   with a borrowed mouse that works.

   Any suggestions for repair before I take my sick mouse to the
   shop or buy a new one?  Thanks for your advice.

   Bob Canfield, Internet: [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 9 Jun 92 23:46:11
From: [e-mail] (Andrew Hudson)
Subject: Need 24-bit PICT

Hi,
I am an image developer working on the IBM PC platform. I
am writing a PICT interpreter and I need 3 sample PICT images.
These images can be very small and can be of the same image.
I need a 24-bit PICT, a 32-bit PICT, and an uncompressed
(non-PackBits) 8-bit PICT.

I looked in the /art directory on sumex-aim but I did not
see any images that mathced what I needed. If you can
possibly help me out I would be very grateful.

The images could be small and thus you could mailthem directly
to me. (great how that works out!). thanks very much.

regards,
Andrew Hudson
[e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 92 12:26:46 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Connie Fennema)
Subject: Online Newsletter

        I am trying to come up with the best method to have our newsletter
online.  Do any of you Mac people have online newsletters?  If so, would
you please tell me how you have it available online?   And what procedure
you used as preparation.

        We are using PageMaker and Microsoft Word 5.0 on the Mac to produce
our newsletter.

        We would prefer to have it on a DEC unix system.  If you can help
me with details on how to go about having the newsletter available online,
please contact me at:

                [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: 10 Jun 92 14:19:50 U
From: "Tom Scott" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Password Protection

                       Subject:
                       Password Protection
Date: Wed, 20 May 1992 21:29 EST
From: WALLACE FELDMAN <[e-mail]>
Subject: Password Protection Wanted

Date sent:  20-MAY-1992 21:22:08
I'm looking for a program that will allow password protection for
individual files, whether on a hard drive or a floppy. It should be
compatible with both System 7 and System 6, and should not encrypt files.
(Safety above all!) The protection does not need to be up to the standards of
the NSA or CIA. All I want to do is protect certain key files from the casual
browser.

I'd prefer commercial software, but do not want to buy a whole mess of assorted
utilities in order to get this function. Please communicate your experiences
and suggestions directly to me. I'll summarize to the net.
 ----------------------------------------------
I don't know about password-protecting individual files without using
encryption, but FolderBolt does a good job password- protecting folders.


 From the desk of:
Tom Scott

 Cornell University

 Carpenter Hall Annex
 Phone: [phone]
 [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1992 23:56 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Personal LS to Personal NTR upgrade (Q)

Well, I've asked a couple other places and didn't get a complete
response to this question...and I figured that the Info-Mac dudes are
the most knowledgable on the planet...:-) So here it goes...


I've heard both sides of the story...about whether the LS is
upgradable to the NTR or not...the pendulum seems to swing
towards the "No!". The LS contains no controller board unlike the NT
and is thus known as a "dumb" printer...:-) However, I believe the
Personal LW SC is also, but the SC is upgradable...they all are
apprarently from the same form factor...hmmm....


Thank you.


Shaw Wu <[e-mail]>

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1992 16:14:07 -0800
From: Scott Allen Gruby <[e-mail]>
Subject: PowerKey (Summary)

Thanks to all of those people that responded to my request for information
about PowerKey. The PowerKey has 4 outlets (one of which must be your Mac)
and it turns on the Mac using the power key on ADB keyboards for those Macs
that don't have the capability.

All of the repsonses said it is a good product. However I was given two
notes of caution. First off, a momentary power off (such as lighting
striking) will causes the Power Key to turn the Mac on. I gather that a
pulse is sent through the device and it thinks the power key was hit. The
second note was that the way the cabling hooks into the back of the Mac can
cause "some torque" on the port if the keyboard is yanked quickly. I gather
that this could happen, but since my keyboard is now in a keyboard drawer,
I won't have that problem.

Thanks again.

Scott Gruby
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 10 Jun 92 08:24:25 -0400
From: Jeffrey L. Needleman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Printing linked documents to file (R)

In 10-140, Mel Martinez suggests using text-merger-102.hqx to append
together each document's separately-printed postscript file. He wisely
points out that the resulting file can be huge because of the repeated
occurrences of fonts and dictionaries.

He further flames a bit at the Apple Finder's bug which, on a multiple
print selection, causes it to apply a choice of "Print Postscript to Disk"
to the first file only, sending the others to the printer regardless of
your wishes.

Mel suggests that writing a script to strip duplicate information from
postscript files would cure the first problem. Happily, that is not
necessary--and the solution that makes it not necessary curiously enough
will solve the second problem as well.

Just download /info-mac/util/ddm-lw-7-stuff-12.hqx from the archives. If
you use System 6, also get /info-mac/util/ddm-lw-56-stuff-12.hqx. These
files by Don Markuson allow you easily to construct variants of the
standard LaserWriter driver, including variants which omit fonts and
dictionaries in a postscript file and only print postscript to disk. (You
can find the full descriptions of both programs in INFO-MAC 10-126.)

By using such a variant as your Chooser choice when printing the second and
later linked documents to a postscript file, you avoid the duplicate
information Mel describes in the first problem.

And by choosing such a variant before you select multiple documents to
print to a postscript file from the Finder, you overcome the Finder bug.
There are driver variants set up to print only postscript to disk; they
don't have the option of sending a file to the printer.

These variants are just variants of the Apple printer driver. If you want
to use them with PageMaker, which generally uses its own Aldus Prep driver,
remember to do an option-print, which will force PageMaker to use the Apple
driver instead.

And let's hear three cheers for Don Markuson, who did such a wonderful job
with so little reward! The extensive documentation he included with his
programs cleared up a lot of questions I had about how printing is done
with a Mac.
Jeff Needleman  <[e-mail]>

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 10 Jun 92 10:39:59 PDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Printing Troubles

Greetings From Nacogdoches--

I've recently run into a bit of trouble--and thought I'd ask the info-mac
folks for some help.  Please respond to me directly as I receive the digest
only on occasion.

Details-- System 6.07 and all its system files; LaserWriter driver/prep v
7.0 or 7.11; various hardware (II, SE, SE/30); all with 2m+ of RAM

When running Multifinder, the Print Monitor comes up and sez that the file
can't be printed because it is damaged.  No matter what app, including the
Finder--nothing will print.  The only fix I have found is to turn off
background printing.  Then all is well.

 I guess the users can live without any background printing as a fix.  I'd
rather have a solution (and please don't tell me to run System 7--I havent
had too much luck with its stability 'round here :-}} )

What gives ? Anyone have a comment/suggestion ?

Thanks--
Ron Rushing- Media Supervisor  Stephen F. Austin State University
Nacogdoches, TX  75962  409) 568-1424

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 10 Jun 92 13:45:10 -0400
From: "Keith E Gatling" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RAM vs Disk Space...and Multifinder

Thanks to a message sent to me by Phil Ryan, I think I now understand the
problem so many people had with Multifinder.

It seems that it's not that Multifinder itself takes up more memory, but
that under Multifinder the Finder is but another application...and one
which remains active even when you try to open something else.  This is
much different from the way things operate when you're only under the
Finder, which will quit when you open a new application.

As I said before, I'm sure someone will correct me on this if I turn out
to be wrong.

keg

* Keith E Gatling                                [e-mail] *

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 10 Jun 92 09:05:28 SET
From: Matthias <[e-mail]>
Subject: Repeat Bibliographic : Advocacy for the devil

>Subject: Repeat Bibliographic: Advocacy for the Devil.
>
>I've been reading all the recent postings about repeating bibliographic input
>and footnoting in Microsoft Word, and it seems that one basic thread is
>that academic customers are being treated like second class citizens.
>
>Playing Devil's Advocate for the moment, I'd ask: Is there any profit in
>adding new features purely for academia?  With the deep discounts typical
>at educational institutions (Well, at least here in the USA), maybe Microsoft
>and other developers don't see enough potential profit from additional academic
>sales to expend the effort.
>
>Steve Wall    [e-mail]

Well Steve, I don't believe that the low educational prices are a result
of charity. These discounts are there to get new customers which would
(if satisfied) stick to these products in their postacademic life.
(yes, some people make it and escape academia!)

So it may be that the developpers do not make much profit from them now,
(Freud is lurking everywere, I really forgot the 'not' in that sentence...)
but in the future. There is a certain chance that people stick for a long
time to the program they first use for a given task. The more complex
the program, the lower the probability that they later switch.

But if they really want to catch some customers that way, it would be
helpfull if they would listen to this clients and their needs. If I am
satisfied by the support through I company, I stick to that company. If
I don't feel supported, I have to look for another supplier.

I better stop now before I start to flame about the price of software
in Europe...

Keep advocating (also the devil has a right for a defense...), Matthias

                !!  BUT STOP CAPITAL PUNISHMENT  !!

Matthias Schroder
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1992 10:16 EDT
From: "Peter D.M. Macdonald" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Telnet MacBinary and Kermit MacBinary (A)

Thanks to all who responded to my query about Kermit MacBinary a few
weeks ago. The problem arose when I was trying to move binary files
back and forth between the Mac at home and the Mac at the office using
a UNIX workstation in between.

I use the Seaquest Kermit SQ tool in MacBinary mode to transfer binary
files from the Mac at home to a UNIX workstation at the university,
then use ftp with MacBinary enabled to send the file to the Mac in my
office. The office Mac is on ethernet and I leave Telnet 2.5B running
at all times. This works OK, and the next time I go to my office the
file is there on the desktop. If I want to bring home a file from the
office Mac, I log onto the workstation from home, ftp the file to the
workstation from the office Mac, then Kermit the file to the Mac at
home. This was working for text files but not for MacBinary files;
Kermit would not recognize the files as MacBinary.

Peter Mackie of Seaquest Software has identified the problem. Telnet
(at least Telnet 2.5B, the version I am using) creates an invalid
MacBinary I header. In MacBinary I, offsets 99 to 127 must be null but
Telnet usually leaves a few garbage bytes there and a strict
implementation of MacBinary, like the Kermit SQ Tool, will treat the
file as binary instead of MacBinary.

My solution has been to write a short C program to re-write the file on
the workstation, setting offsets 99 to 127 to zero. This adds one small
step to the process but Kermit now recognizes the file as MacBinary and
transfers it correctly. A better solution would be for NCSA to revise
the Telnet MacBinary protocol but in the meantime anyone who wants my C
source code is welcome to ask me for it.

Peter Macdonald
Math and Statistics, McMaster University, Hamilton, Ontario

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 10 Jun 92 15:17:22 -0400
From: "Keith E Gatling" <[e-mail]>
Subject: The Word on Word

Comments on two previously sent messages here.

First, Michael A. McGuire ([e-mail]) says...

   > They also said that a new version of Word, rewritten from the core,
   > was in our future and would address some of the Figure/Footnote/Table
   > numbering problems that have been discussed here in the last week or
   > so.  I hope it runs faster.  Don't hold your breath on this one.  He
   > could not give me a date.

I just read today in the most recent MacWeek that a totally rewritten
version of Word, Word 6.0 will be available in mid 93.  Gee...and I just
spent $109 for Word 5.0.  Upgrades every two years I can handle, but every
18 months is a little much for me.  And I'm not even complaining about the
fact that since I bought the academic version, I'd have to repurchase Word
6.0 because the upgrade is more expensive.  It just seems to me that every
18 months is just a bit too frequent.

Also, Stephen Wall <[e-mail]> writes...

   > Playing Devil's Advocate for the moment, I'd ask: Is there any profit
   > in adding new features purely for academia?  With the deep discounts
   > typical at educational institutions (Well, at least here in the USA),
   > maybe Microsoft and other developers don't see enough potential
   > profit from additional academic sales to expend the effort.

I think I may have alluded to this in my message about the 5% of users who
need to do something that Word (or any other package) can't handle.  This
is where smart developers can make a mint (and have)...by looking for a
specialized problem and creating an add on to an already existing product
that takes care of it.  Okay, true, Microsoft may have done tons of ads
showing how Word can be used for techinical papers, and maybe you expected
that as a result, Word would be able to do things in the specialized
format that your discipline requires.  But maybe they weren't thinking the
same thing you were when they gave examples of technical papers.  As I
said before, after having done two semesters of typing in the APA style, I
wasn't aware of the special formats the rest of you have to use (and boy,
do I have a new appreciation of APA now!).

But, as Michael McGuire said above, Word 6 should take care of this
problem...and it's only a year away!

keg

* Keith E Gatling                                [e-mail] *

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 10 Jun 92 08:55 MET
From: Hans de Wolf <[e-mail]>
Subject: Translation of MASS-11 files (Reply)

Reply to Scott Traurigs question about translating MASS-11 files:
The product "Word-for-Word/Mac" from MasterSoft does have MASS-11 on it's
list of file formats that can be translated. I do not use MASS-11 files,
so I cannot tell you how good the translation is.

Regards,
Hans de Wolf
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1992 12:34:01 -0600
From: [e-mail] (Software Hank)
Subject: Two-page Monitors

Dr.Peter T. Boag <[e-mail]> writes:

!I want a monochrome or greyscale 'two page' monitor, probably for a IIsi.
!These seem to come in two flavours - 19" (1024x768 pixels) and 21"
!(1152x870 pixels). My primary need is to be be able to page through a full
!length manuscript page, as in WORD, and be able to have another application
!running adjacent. Does anyone have the hands on experience to tell me if
!the 19" will do or do I need the 21"? Also, any experience with particular
!monitors would be appreciated. I have been collecting info on the Apple 21"
!(expensive, avg. quality, being discontinued?), Supermac Platinum series
!(good, intermediate price), Mirror (lower price, quality unknown),
!Panasonic 19" (lowest price, quality ?). Thanks inadvance to any
!suggestions on monitors and/or cards to drive them.

I have the Apple 21" with an Apple display card (I can't tell which one,
it doesn't say on the card).  It's an alright monitor, I guess, but I think
19" would be too small to display two pages side by side.  With the menubar
and the horizontal scroll bar and the title at the top of the window I
can get one page to display in Nisus with about .25" above and below the
displayed page (which includes the grey page gap).


Shawn Barnhart / [e-mail] / U of Mn Public Relations

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 10 Jun 92 08:53:39 EDT
From: "Allan M. Bloom" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Undeleteable folder (A)

On Mon, 8 Jun, Mike Spreitzer wrote:

>Why do I have a folder I can't delete?  I can drag it into the trash.
>When I try to Empty Trash, I get "The Trash couldn't be emptied
>(a file was busy or a folder was not empty)." Of course, the folder
>*appears* to be empty.  "Get Info" says "0 bytes used, 0K on disk,
>for 0 files". However, DiskTop says "-3 files/folders". Ring any bells?

Rings a large gong, Mike. The famed "folder from hell." Get the fix
>From the archives:

      13892 Feb  6 1991 ./util/hell-folder-fix.hqx

Al Bloom, Virginia Tech

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 10 Jun 92 18:25:19 EDT
From: "Allan M. Bloom" <[e-mail]>
Subject: White Knight Text Downloads (Q)

This probably ranks with MacUser's "*...But Were Afraid to Ask" section,
and I should probably somehow use a pseudonym. However, pride must needs
yield to practicality. My principal interaction is with the TurkeyTech
IBM VM/CMS mainframe. When I do a Kermit download of a text file, the
received file has a linefeed (CONTROL-J) after each carriage return.

Except for hqx files, I must go through the extra step of editing out
those buggers via global find/replace. I'm sure that some White Knight
option will strip those extra linefeed characters, but I can't for the
life of me figure out what it is. Any help appreciated.

Al Bloom, Virginia Tech

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1992 0:40:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail] (Bob Canfield)
Subject: White Knight timer DOES flicker

The timer in versions 1.14 (and 1.13) of White Knight does flicker on my
Mac SE (system 7), just as David Wong observed in digest #139. It's distracting
enough that I'll be returning to version 1.12 again for which the flicker did
not exist. I'll send a note to Scott Watson's Freesoft BB on GEnie.


Bob Canfield

------------------------------

Date: 10 Jun 92 19:09:37 GMT
From: [e-mail] (lou)
Subject: wishlist:  choose finder/multifinder, main monitor at startup

Here are two things I'd like - anyone got any sugestions? Thanks.

1) I have two monitors.  Normally I only turn on the small color one,
so normally that is the "main" screen where the menu bar is.  However,
many applications limit the size of a window to what will fit on the
main screen.  So, to use those with large windows on the large screen
I have to make the large monitor be the main one.  Anyone know of a
way to do this without restarting?  Anyone know of a way to do this at
startup time, i.e. if I know when I turn on the Mac that this session I
want the main monitor to be the big one, is there any way to do it
short of booting up, using the control panel to make the change, and
restarting?

2) I'm still using system 6 (don't ask).  My family is used to Finder,
so that is what normally runs, but sometimes I want to use multi-finder.
Is there any way at startup time to select which of finder or multifinder I
get, short of starting up, using the set startup menu and restarting?
--
                    Lou Steinberg

uucp:   {pretty much any major site}!rutgers!aramis.rutgers.edu!lou
internet:   [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 10 Jun 92 08:16:27 PDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Word, footnotes, table and figure renumbering

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 10 Jun 92 16:14:31 BST
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Date:     Wed, 10 Jun 92  16:04 GMT
From:     [e-mail]
To:       "info-mac" [e-mail]-RELAY
Subject:  Word, footnotes, table and figure renumbering

     Yes, we do want Word to be able to number figures and tables (like
FullWrite can) and to cope with multiple references to the same
footnote or endnote properly.  Thanks, Microsoft for the footnote fix
using the 'paste picture' command, but it's clumsy, it doesn't look
pretty, in fact it's a kludge.  And if it's true that the MSDOS version
can do some of these things now, surely the same features can be put in
the Mac version, Mr. Gates.  Oh, and by the way, I like BASIC just as
much as you do, so what about implementing the BASIC scripting
language in the Mac version that's already in Word for Windows?

     I don't think it's the size of the academic market that's at
issue here, it's more likely that Microsoft just haven't had the
necessary feedback (which they are getting now, thanks to this
discussion). If you pause to think about the size of the actual and the
potential market, consider all the students working away right now
finishing their dissertations with Word. These future graduates will
not all go to academia, but they *might* want to write (a report,
technical documentation ...) in their future employment and if they
have used a product in the past which fits this bill, they will be more
inclined to use it again.

     Just one more request, *please*, *please* don't bring out a Word
6 that needs 11 Mb of disk space like Excel 4, I just don't have that
much room to spare on my hard disk ....... (or maybe you could do a deal
with one of those pocket hard drive manufacturers?  Bundled Microsoft
software with every miniature hard disk, no more installation, plug
in the SCSI cable and go!  Could this be the marketing coup of the
future???)

------------------------------

Date: 10 Jun 92 14:18:14 U
From: "Tom Scott" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Word 5.0 crashes - Side not

                       Subject:
                       Word 5.0 crashes - Side note
Tom Scott mentions " I've been getting frequent system bombs that are
catagorized as "Bus Errors" in the bomb alert box" in IMD 10-125. We have been
seeing the same thing since 5.0 was installed. The system will reproducibly
hang up either when saving or alternatively when using the Save As function.
The problem is intermittent, but it has led us to go back to 4.0 for now.

 ---------------------------------------------
Here's an interesting side note.  After one crashes and subsequent restart, I
tried opening the Word 5 "Temp" files and didn't get anything.  But when I used
Word 4.0D, it opened them and I was able to recoup most of my "lost" work.


 From the desk of:
Tom Scott

 Cornell University

 Carpenter Hall Annex
 Phone: [phone]
 [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 10 Jun 92 15:06:54 CDT
From: Bryan K. Walls <[e-mail]>
Subject: wordprocessing on a Sparc and an SE/30? (A)

TEX is available on the mac. For free.

>From the Readme file:
OzTeX is a public domain implementation of TeX for the Macintosh.
...
OzTeX will work on any currently available Macintosh.  Because of the large
amount of memory required to run OzTeX and the large amount of disk space
needed to store all the font information, the minimum hardware configuration
is probably a Mac Plus with 1MB of RAM and a 20MB hard disk.

end quote:

I don't remember where to get it, but you can find out from Archie.

Like Tex on the Sun, though, it's hard to use.  If you want a user-friendly
word processor, Word Perfect comes on both platforms.  Also Island Write
is a simple WYSIWYG wp which isn't exactly like anything mac, but has the
same flavor.

Bryan Walls
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 10 Jun 92 11:03:18 EST
From: Francois Brillon <[e-mail]>
Subject: Zterm Text Capture

Hi Info-Mac readers,

I use a VM system to acces Internet. My communication program is Zterm. I
have a little problem... little but important! I want to display all the
contents of a file (ASCII) on my screen to capture the file with FILE CAPTURE
fonction of Zterm.  But, I can use VM only in full screen mode (not in line
mode). So, the captured file is empty because Zterm VM send CLEARSCREEN codes
after each screen page... and Zterm clear the file each time it get a
CLEARSCREEN code.

So, I ask you to tell me the way you use to capture some big files when you
are in fullscreen mode. I think there is an utility who can "dump" th file on
screen and do the job I want... by I don't know the name of the program.

For now, dumping the file on screen and capture it is the only way I have to
transfer files from VM to my MAC by modem. Kermit doesn't work where I am. If
somebody can hel me, I would appreciate!

Send answer to Info-mac or (better) to me at [e-mail]

Thanks a lot!              Francois

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1992 10:19:01 -0600 (MDT)
From: [e-mail]

 I have a Macintosh II with a standard 68020 16Mhz processor,
 math chip and no PMMU. I have heard a rumour that some folks are
 having good luck boosting the speed of the machine by replacing the
 clock chip with a higher speed one. Apparently this works as long as
 the SIMMs installed are fast enough, because the rest of the components
 can keep up with this higher speed. Does anyone know if this is true
 and not just a rumour? And if so, what component do I need to get
 hold of and how do I do it? Anyone done this?

Thanks,
Ken Mah <[e-mail]>

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